Comments on: More on Bottled Water http://sustainableflatbush.org/2007/12/07/more-on-bottled-water/ Promoting sustainable living in our Brooklyn neighborhood. Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:12:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: anne http://sustainableflatbush.org/2007/12/07/more-on-bottled-water/#comment-1861 anne Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:44:40 +0000 http://sustainableflatbush.org/?p=265#comment-1861 yes!! here are my favorite excerpts from the linked article: * Bottled water is a waste of money. American’s spent $10 billion on bottled water in 2005 and paid up to 1,000 times the cost of production, a major windfall of profit for the companies. Bottled water can costs $7.50 to $11.00 per gallon in the supermarket 8 but tap water costs most customers only one-tenth of one cent per gallon. * What America really needs is increased funding for public drinking water and water treatment. America has some of the safest tap water in the world but many cities operate water systems that were built before World War I. The Environmental Protection Agency estimates that there is a shortfall of more than $22 billion per year between the funds available for repair and upgrade of pipes and treatment plants and what is needed to keep water safe for human and environmental health. -------------------------------- instead of handing our dollars over to Coca Cola et al, we should be investing in our municipal water systems. Aquafina who??? yes!! here are my favorite excerpts from the linked article:

* Bottled water is a waste of money.
American’s spent $10 billion on bottled water in 2005 and paid up to 1,000 times the cost of production, a major windfall of profit for the companies. Bottled water can costs $7.50 to $11.00 per gallon in the supermarket 8 but tap water costs most customers only one-tenth of one cent per gallon.

* What America really needs is increased funding for public drinking water and water treatment.
America has some of the safest tap water in the world but many cities operate water systems that were built before World War I. The Environmental Protection Agency estimates that there is a shortfall of more than $22 billion per year between the funds available for repair and upgrade of pipes and treatment plants and what is needed to keep water safe for human and environmental health.

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instead of handing our dollars over to Coca Cola et al, we should be investing in our municipal water systems. Aquafina who???

]]> By: Nicole Sherwin http://sustainableflatbush.org/2007/12/07/more-on-bottled-water/#comment-1859 Nicole Sherwin Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:54:32 +0000 http://sustainableflatbush.org/?p=265#comment-1859 Food and Water Watch is launching a campaign for NYC restaurants to stop using bottled water (selling bottled water) and to use NYC's tap water (which is some of the best in the nation!) Check it out: http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/water/bottled Food and Water Watch is launching a campaign for NYC restaurants to stop using bottled water (selling bottled water) and to use NYC’s tap water (which is some of the best in the nation!)

Check it out: http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/water/bottled

]]> By: anne http://sustainableflatbush.org/2007/12/07/more-on-bottled-water/#comment-1858 anne Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:46:45 +0000 http://sustainableflatbush.org/?p=265#comment-1858 thanks for your comments! i appreciate what evan says about getting the conversation started, and it's nice to see that happen here. i don't think it would be necessary to subsidize brita or any other filtration system once people realize that the price of one or two days' supply of bottled water could instead buy a month's worth of as-good-or-better-quality water from the tap at home. hopefully at least a few people will be motivated to switch back when they learn the whole story about how we've all been played for fools by the beverage companies' clever use of words like "spring" and "geyser". rejin, sorry to hear the project has stalled for the moment; but i have seen lately that some attention and activism is being directed to the issue of recycling and sustainability in schools, so maybe your school will respond to the plan you've already provided for them! maybe they want to check out the department of sanitation's golden apple program: "The Golden Apple Awards offers schools in NYC substantial cash prizes for documenting their model school recycling programs, waste prevention initiatives, or beautification projects." more info here: http://www.nyc.gov/html/nycwasteless/html/at_agencies/at_school_schoolcontests.shtml i agree with salimah about water fountains, a school child's ultimate refreshment back in the day! have they gone the way of pay phones?? what would it take to get them working again? does this mean that parents have to BUY every drink their child consumes in school? these issues all strike me as ways in which our public infrastructure is being subtly undermined, which in itself is a passive form of privatization, no? thanks for your comments! i appreciate what evan says about getting the conversation started, and it’s nice to see that happen here.

i don’t think it would be necessary to subsidize brita or any other filtration system once people realize that the price of one or two days’ supply of bottled water could instead buy a month’s worth of as-good-or-better-quality water from the tap at home. hopefully at least a few people will be motivated to switch back when they learn the whole story about how we’ve all been played for fools by the beverage companies’ clever use of words like “spring” and “geyser”.

rejin, sorry to hear the project has stalled for the moment; but i have seen lately that some attention and activism is being directed to the issue of recycling and sustainability in schools, so maybe your school will respond to the plan you’ve already provided for them! maybe they want to check out the department of sanitation’s golden apple program:

“The Golden Apple Awards offers schools in NYC substantial cash prizes for documenting their model school recycling programs, waste prevention initiatives, or beautification projects.”

more info here:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nycwasteless/html/at_agencies/at_school_schoolcontests.shtml

i agree with salimah about water fountains, a school child’s ultimate refreshment back in the day! have they gone the way of pay phones?? what would it take to get them working again? does this mean that parents have to BUY every drink their child consumes in school?

these issues all strike me as ways in which our public infrastructure is being subtly undermined, which in itself is a passive form of privatization, no?

]]> By: Evan http://sustainableflatbush.org/2007/12/07/more-on-bottled-water/#comment-1847 Evan Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:18:52 +0000 http://sustainableflatbush.org/?p=265#comment-1847 Good call, but how to go about this? Subsidize reusable, filtered, bisphenol A free bottles? Subsidize Brita? I enjoyed the calling out of pepsi and coke when their glorified tap water campaign was called out, but I don't think that made people switch back to tap water. Either way, conversation is what starts the consumer revolution, so keep it up. Good call, but how to go about this?

Subsidize reusable, filtered, bisphenol A free bottles?
Subsidize Brita?

I enjoyed the calling out of pepsi and coke when their glorified tap water campaign was called out, but I don’t think that made people switch back to tap water.

Either way, conversation is what starts the consumer revolution, so keep it up.

]]> By: Salimah http://sustainableflatbush.org/2007/12/07/more-on-bottled-water/#comment-1845 Salimah Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:36:18 +0000 http://sustainableflatbush.org/?p=265#comment-1845 Whatever happened to water fountains? Not bottled water dispensers but good old fashioned water fountains. On a recent visit to a public school, I could not find one operable fountain. Would it not be ecologically sound to fix the plumbing in public fountains. I remember standing in line with other kids in the city parks after playing, just to get a drink from a playground fountain. The water was always so cold and so good. Whatever happened to water fountains? Not bottled water dispensers but good old fashioned water fountains. On a recent visit to a public school, I could not find one operable fountain. Would it not be ecologically sound to fix the plumbing in public fountains. I remember standing in line with other kids in the city parks after playing, just to get a drink from a playground fountain. The water was always so cold and so good.

]]> By: rejin http://sustainableflatbush.org/2007/12/07/more-on-bottled-water/#comment-1844 rejin Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:07:24 +0000 http://sustainableflatbush.org/?p=265#comment-1844 Great post, Anne. I remember reading about the push for a "Bigger Better Bottle Bill" ages ago and it seems like nothing ever came of it. The project at the school has actually been stalled. Our Parent's Association said they'd think about doing it as a fund raiser a few months ago and never got back to me. But the Assistant Principal and I had a talk about plastics the other day, and I am about to have my upper-graders do a poster project. Maybe if we raise awareness about the problem first, the reusable bottle campaign will have a better chance. Great post, Anne. I remember reading about the push for a “Bigger Better Bottle Bill” ages ago and it seems like nothing ever came of it.
The project at the school has actually been stalled. Our Parent’s Association said they’d think about doing it as a fund raiser a few months ago and never got back to me. But the Assistant Principal and I had a talk about plastics the other day, and I am about to have my upper-graders do a poster project. Maybe if we raise awareness about the problem first, the reusable bottle campaign will have a better chance.

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